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     Posted: 
    November 10, 2007.
    
	Fame can come from lots of different directions.  Rachael 
	Lawrence is determined to meet it head on.
	
	A California-born-and-bred multi-hyphenate; Lawrence has 
	spent the last decade or so working as a singer, songwriter, actress, 
	director and producer.  She has even been a popular celeb singing coach – 
	teaching voice to the likes of Sara Rue, Bai Ling and basketball player 
	Rick Fox.  She has recently been signed by Universal Music Group as a staff 
	songwriter. 
	
	Meanwhile, Lawrence and a bunch of her college friends have 
	created Drama 3|4, a production company and workspace for artists to create 
	films, music or any other imaginative pursuits. 
	
	
	Lawrence’s first real taste of pop-culture notoriety came from a truly 
	unexpected direction – the cultural phenomenon of YouTube.  Lawrence and her 
	friends created a short musical film called “Shoes,” with friend Liam 
	Sullivan in drag as Kelly, a disgruntled suburban teen whose real passion is 
	for footwear.  Lawrence contributed to the techno-pop music of the clip, as 
	well as playing the shoe saleswoman who is accosted for suggesting that 
	Kelly’s feet were too big for her perfect dream pumps.  “Shoes” was recently 
	ranked as the seventh most popular posting ever on that ubiquitous site. 
	
	Many of same people who made “Shoes” teamed up for VH1’s 
	first original situation comedy; 
	I Hate My 30s – 
	about a 
	group of corporate workers who are violently resisting inevitable aging.  
	In 
	30s, 
	Lawrence plays Vicki, the loud-mouthed, music-loving receptionist in the 
	office – and also the only character in the show who is still in her 20s.  
	Lawrence also co-writes the music for the series. 
	
	As 
	the first season of 
	I Hate My 30s
	
	
	was winding down, Rachael was nice enough to give us a call and discuss her 
	many pursuits.
	
	I saw in your bio that 
	you are from San Diego.  I hope the fires aren’t 
	affecting you and your 
	family… 
	
	My family is fine, thank you.  Just a little scared, you know?  Some of my 
	family had to evacuate.  But everybody is okay. 
	
	
	 How did you get 
	involved in performing?
How did you get 
	involved in performing? 
	I 
	don’t remember not performing.  It started basically when I was three.  My 
	parents noticed I had an ear for playing the piano.  They got me playing and 
	then I was playing for people all the time.  Then I started getting into 
	musicals.  In fourth grade I remember getting into the high school musical. 
	(laughs)  So, I was just always on stage. 
	
	So how do you think of 
	yourself – as a songwriter, singer, actor, director or comedian? 
	
	It’s kind of like picking your favorite child.  It’s hard to say what I 
	actually really consider myself.  I think there are areas that I’m stronger 
	in.  I work as a voice coach, so I’m so comfortable singing that I think of 
	myself more as a singer.  But then I got a TV show and was working my acting 
	muscles and felt more like an actor for a while.  I guess it changes with 
	the wind, you know? 
	
	When in college, you 
	worked as a vocal coach for many well-known people.  What was that like? 
	
	Well, once you establish yourself as a teacher in LA, you just hope that by 
	word of mouth people will refer you to other people.  I’ve just been very 
	lucky that my clients really love what I do for them.  If you live in LA 
	long enough and you’re in the entertainment business, at some point you’re 
	going to run into some celebrities and some fun people to work with. 
	
	You also had a running 
	gig at the Hollywood Bowl.  How did that come about? 
	
	Well, during the summers it was a great job to have – instead of waiting 
	tables or something like that just out of college.  Basically, the summer 
	programs would have a lot of Broadway stars come in and they needed singers 
	to back them up or sing along with them.  So, I was hired to do a lot of the 
	Broadway shows there.  That was great – being on that stage with that 
	orchestra. 
	
	How did you get 
	involved in the formation of Drama 3|4? 
	
	Drama 3|4 came about… it’s basically a clubhouse for a lot of my friends. 
	(laughs)  Most of us met at USC – The University of Southern 
	California – here in Los Angeles.  We were all majoring in theater and 
	putting on shows.  We all definitely wanted to have a career in the arts 
	once we were out of school.  It basically formed out of wanting to produce 
	our own material.  A couple of my friends, they formed the business.  Now we 
	have an office and a rehearsal space and all kinds of wonderful things we 
	can access in order to make our movies or our live shows or music videos or 
	whatever. 
	
	The first thing that 
	you did that really caught on was the video for “Shoes” which became a 
	sensation on YouTube.  Could you have ever imagined that it would catch on 
	so big? 
	
	You know, Liam Sullivan is such a funny, amazingly talented comedian and 
	actor.  I just know that things that come out of this group of people – it’s 
	going to get noticed.  I didn’t know that that was going to be the one that 
	was going to blow up the biggest.  (laughs)   You never know what 
	people are going to turn into the next sensation.  But I’m definitely not 
	surprised. 
	
	
	 There are lots of 
	people out there who are trying to use YouTube as a trampoline to fame – the 
	Bridezilla, Chris Crocker, The Dancing Kid – but you and Lyle are some of 
	the few who actually have gotten jobs so far from it.  Do you think that as 
	it goes on it will become more and more common to get their start in YouTube 
	and then jump out into other aspects of the industry?
There are lots of 
	people out there who are trying to use YouTube as a trampoline to fame – the 
	Bridezilla, Chris Crocker, The Dancing Kid – but you and Lyle are some of 
	the few who actually have gotten jobs so far from it.  Do you think that as 
	it goes on it will become more and more common to get their start in YouTube 
	and then jump out into other aspects of the industry? 
	I 
	definitely believe that.  I think that the masses can speak volumes.  If 
	something catches on with the people, it’s not an agent or a casting 
	director that is really deciding the fate of certain people.  It’s actually 
	a popularity contest.  I think it’s wonderful, because a lot of people are 
	turned down in the industry.  They pitch shows that, you know, one person 
	decides that it’s not going.  On YouTube you have the opportunity to see if 
	everyone else likes it.  Then you can get some justification in getting 
	something on TV or radio or get signed.  You know, Justin Timberlake signed 
	that girl who sang that ‘Umbrella’ cover.  She would never have gotten that 
	if the people hadn’t spoken. 
	
	Is there anything in 
	the world that is worse to say to a woman than “Your feet are so big?” 
	
	(laughs)  
	Oh, definitely.  That’s the least of my worries.  I’m not too worried if 
	people think my feet are too big. 
	
	So how did you get 
	involved with 
	I Hate My 30s?  I 
	wasn’t sure from the bio – had you gotten the series before “Shoes” came out 
	or after? 
	Liam has been working on that character for a 
	really long time.  It was a complete coincidence that that happened at the 
	same time.  We were all in Kelly’s “Shoes” video because we’ve all been 
	friends for years.  Everyone on I Hate My 30s have been friends for a 
	very long time.  This TV show is more like an extension of what we’ve been 
	doing.  A lot of people think that other things have come out – you know, 
	become popular because of the show.  But actually it’s just kind of another 
	thing we do. 
	
	So what’s it like 
	being the only non-thirties person in 
	I Hate My 30s? 
	
	The character or the real person?
	
	Well, both… 
	
	Well, I’m actually turning 30 next week so it’s kind of a funny year for 
	me. 
	
	Oh, happy birthday. 
	
	Thank you.  You know, I’m so ready to get out of my 20s.  I know on the show 
	we make the 30s sound like it might not be that fun for people, but I am 
	definitely ready to start the next chapter in my life.  I’m ready to become 
	an adult… you know, for real this time.  So, I’m looking forward to it. 
	
	
	 You also do the songs 
	for 
	
	30s.  How much 
	fun is it coming up with songs about things like internet dating or “Your 
	Love Is Like My Lousy Day Job?”
You also do the songs 
	for 
	
	30s.  How much 
	fun is it coming up with songs about things like internet dating or “Your 
	Love Is Like My Lousy Day Job?” 
	
	Oh, you couldn’t ask for a better job.  I got to co-write the songs 
	actually, with David [Fickas] and Brice
	[Beckham], who star on the show – and also wrote, 
	directed and produced it.  You stick the three of us in a room…  I mean we 
	were at my house, on my keyboard, I was recording it on my software and we 
	just basically laughed out a song in five minutes for each episode.  It was 
	so fun… and to get paid for it and get to perform the songs and write the 
	songs, you can’t ask for anything more. 
	
	The songs you do for 
	the show, and other things I’ve seen like “J.A.P.S.” on YouTube, tend to 
	have a strong comic attitude.  I read you recently signed a songwriting 
	contract with Universal Music.  Are the songs you are writing for them more 
	serious, or do you add a comic pulse to them, too? 
	
	 
	
	I’ve been involved in this sketch group for such 
	a long time; most of the emphasis in my work has been comedic.  When you’re 
	a songwriter with a publishing deal, you’re writing for other artists.  
	There are not a lot of comedic artists on Top 40.  
	(laughs)  So, I’m 
	writing pop hits right now – or attempting to. 
	
	 
	
	Radio has become so 
	hard to break onto these days.  Do you feel as a performer and songwriter 
	it’s almost best to find alternate avenues like television and the 
	internet? 
	
	It really depends who is listening to you.  I really adore my publishers.  
	They love our music.  They’re really going to help us get out there.  But, 
	if I had any advice for anyone getting into music or television or 
	entertainment out here in LA, it’s that you have to do a lot of it yourself 
	nowadays.  You have to present the world with, you know, product.  
	(laughs)  So make a short movie.  Put up a play.  Get on stage.  They 
	want to see what you’re made of.  The market is just saturated with actors 
	and musicians – and a lot of stupid people that just want to be famous and 
	don’t really have anything to offer.  So you really have to prove yourself.  
	It’s a do it yourself kind of industry. 
	
	I read you had a small 
	part in the movie 
	Mrs. Henderson 
	Presents.  How did that come about and what was it like to be in a movie 
	with Dame Judi Dench and Bob Hoskins? 
	
	I’m sorry to say I actually wasn’t in that movie.  It’s on my 
	[internet filmography].  I’ve 
	tried and tried to tell them I’m not in that movie.  (laughs)  I was 
	not a part of that production. 
	
	We’re going to have to talk to IMDb about that… 
	
	I’ve sent them a few things.  You know, you can’t call them; you have to 
	just make requests, so I haven’t been able to get it off there.  But, 
	whatever, it’s another credit.  (laughs) 
	
	What is something about you that people would be surprised to know? 
	I 
	think probably mostly what a musician I am.  I’m a voice coach.  I’m 
	certified in a technique.  I teach tons of people out here in Los Angeles.  
	When you’re on TV, a lot of people don’t think you do anything else.  I know 
	that I wrote some of the songs on the show, but I’ve been playing the piano 
	since I was three years old.  I’m very involved with music.  (pause)  
	I mean, I probably have some weird quirks I could tell you that people don’t 
	know about… but that’s not very exciting.  (laughs) 
	
	You just said next week you’re turning 30.  Let’s go forward in time a 
	little bit, let’s say next week you were turning 60.  How would you like to 
	look back on your career?  Or how would you like for people to see what 
	you’ve done over the years? 
	
	Well, I definitely know that my place in this world is with music and 
	entertainment.  I would really like to have a really wonderful career as a 
	songwriter.  I would love to do more television, more film.  I know how 
	difficult it is to do, but I don’t really see myself doing anything else on 
	this planet.  (laughs)  I would really like to – not to sound 
	charitable to sound charitable – but I really would love to make enough 
	money at some point through songwriting to maybe open some schools.  Music 
	schools.  I’ve been really inspired by all these celebrities that are going 
	out across the entire world and creating opportunities for people to have an 
	education.  I would love to do something with that with music – probably 
	when things calm down a little.  (laughs)  Once I’ve made a better 
	living. 
	
	Have you heard if 
	there is going to be a second season of 
	I Hate My 30s? 
	
	We don’t know yet.  I believe they are in talks and they’re checking out all 
	the ratings and numbers and things.  So, we’re still waiting. 
	
	Other than 
	
	Mrs. Henderson Presents, 
	are there any misconceptions you’d like to clear up? 
	I 
	sure hope not.  I haven’t heard about them yet.  But, I’m a pretty good 
	girl.  I come from a really nice family.  I haven’t done anything to 
	embarrass myself out there.  I’m a pretty straight shooter.  I’m an open 
	book.  So that’s pretty much it.  I work hard, you know?
	
    
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