Life must be a little scary for Julie
Benz. In an acting career that has lasted over two decades, Benz is
still probably best known as the ill-fated wife of the titular serial
killer in the popular series Dexter. However, that is far from
the only role that Benz has played that experienced thrills, chills, and
things that go bump in the night.
She also had a recurring role on
Buffy: The Vampire Slayer which then ended up on the spin-off
Angel. She also spent hard time on Saw V, 8mm 2, Supernatural
and the awkwardly-titled horror comedy Shriek If You Know What I
Did Last Friday the Thirteenth. The Pittsburgh native does not do
all horror, mind you. In fact, she has had roles in such series as
Roswell, Desperate Housewives, No Ordinary Family and currently is
on both Hawaii Five-O and the brand new series version of the
Oscar-winning film Training Day.
Her latest film returns her smack dab back
into the horror genre. Havenhurst is a thriller of a recovering
alcoholic who gets a second chance in an imposing Gothic New York
apartment building that caters to people who have lost their way and are
looking for a fresh start. However, it seems that tenants who fall off
the wagon have a tendency to disappear mysteriously. Benzí character of
Jackie, an alcoholic whose daughter died while she was driving drunk, is
first heartened by the opportunity, but quickly recognizes the dark side
of the building when she decides to investigate the disappearance of a
friend from rehab.
About a week before Havenhurst
opened in selected theaters and was released on demand, we chatted with
Benz about the movie and her career.
Nice to talk to you again. We
last spoke when you did Ricochet.
What was the spookiest place you ever lived or visited, and what about
it disquieted you?
I stayed in a castle in Scotland one time,
where Mary Queen of Scots had stayed with her third husband. She had
to escape through a window or something. I remember in the castle, they
told us there were ghosts. I didnít really believe in ghosts at the
time. That night it was really windy out, [and] we could hear the
window whistling through the windows [which] were really tiny. You
could [really] hear the wind. Then my water glass, that I had on my
side of the bed, the next morning was on the other side of the bed. No
one had moved it. I got really freaked out. (laughs) They also
locked us in. They locked us into the castle at night. It was a hotel,
but they lock all the guests in at night and they leave. (laughs
again, harder) It doesnít feel too safe when youíre locked in and
youíre like: we canít get out.... Weíre stuck in here.
Jackie had to knowingly break the rules,
purposely falling off the wagon, in order to go into the heart of
darkness and confront the evil. Iíd read when you were younger you had
a teacher that wanted to dissuade you from acting, and look at you now.
Have you always been a rule breaker? Do those challenges intrigue you?
Yeah, I mean they are two very different
kinds of breaking the rules. (laughs) When I was young and I
had that one instructor tell me that I was never going to make it as an
actress, that ignited a flame in me to say ďWell, Iíll show you.Ē Knock
on wood, I think I have. (laughs again) In Jackieís case, it
wasnít just making that choice to fall off the wagon. Falling off the
wagon also represented her addiction, which resulted in the death of her
child. It was a much more emotional moment for her to make that
decision. She realized that the only way she could figure out what was
going on was to take that step. When I read the script, I really loved
that aspect of the movie. When we meet Jackie in the beginning, sheís
the walking wounded. She has to carry the burden of her daughterís
death, and that she caused it because of her addiction, for the rest of
her life. You feel it in every breath that she takes and every movement
that she has. You feel that burden. The turning point is when she
makes that decision to just get real, to find out whatís going on.
Thereís some serious stuff going on at Havenhurst, so she makes that
decision. Itís a really tough decision to make, because she doesnít
know if sheís going to come back from it. Aside from putting her life
in danger, she doesnít know if sheíll be able to be clean again. Itís a
huge moment for her in the film.
Itís a rather selfless thing that she
does, because sheís doing it to protect the girl.
Yeah. What I was trying to reveal with
her relationship with Belleís character is that when they first meet in
the elevator, sheís so awkward with her. Itís almost like she doesnít
want to have children around her. Especially a child who was the same
age as her daughter, because itís too hard. It brings back too many
memories. Sheís just kind of annoyed that this young person is in the
elevator with her. Then, she becomes her protector. It evolves into
that relationship. She has to break down some barriers and some walls
to allow that to happen.
Your characterís life was so much about
her recovery from alcoholism and her guilt about her daughter. Did you
sit in on any rehabs or support groups to get a feeling of what she was
I know a lot of people who have gone
through rehab that I have spoken to over the years. Iíve watched them
and gone through their own sobriety with them. But really, for me, the
key was the fact that because of her addiction causing her daughterís
death, that was her burden. To me thatís something; I donít have
children, but I couldnít imagine living with that. I couldnít imagine
knowing that I was the reason why my child died. My actions caused it.
That was really the key into the character of Jackie for me. Really
just using my imagination: What would that be like? As actors weíre
able to have big imaginations. Not just as actors, people in general,
everybody has a big imagination. You allow it, putting yourself in the
shoes of a woman who caused her childís death because of her alcoholism,
just to me it is devastating. How do you move on? I did read a lot of
books about recovery during that time. I read a lot, so I tend to pick
reading material that somehow relates to a character. I remember I was
reading a couple memoirs of people who has bad addictions and were going
through recovery. You carry those stories with you into the characters.
What was your decompression process when
making the film?
Jackie carries a lot of pain. I tried to
reveal that in my physical movements, especially in the beginning. Her
shoulders are a little more slumped than how I normally stand.
Everything is very down. Ironically, I had to do a lot of palates to
get back to normal. (laughs) Iím a big palates advocate. I do
palates on a regular basis. Just to stretch out my muscles and my
limbs, just to feel normal again, every night Iíd go home and do some
palates just to get my posture back. Then, usually the car ride home is
where I decompress. LA traffic, thereís plenty of time. Sit in the
car. Listen to some music. Get back to who you are. Then turn around
and go back into it the next day. I use the car as my decompressor.
And my recompressor when I drive to work.
Fionnula Flanagan is such a great actress,
and her character was so chilling in this. What was she like to work
Yes. This is the second time Iíve gotten
the chance to work with her. The first time was on [the Syfy Channel
series] Defiance. She played my mentor on Defiance from
season one. I love Fionnula. She is so elegant and a stunningly
gorgeous woman. She has this amazing presence, on-camera and
off-camera, that makes you want to sit up straighter and be your best
around her. Thereís a scene in the movie where I have to take her on,
emotionally. Where I say Iím leaving. She left me shaking, just
shaking, because sheís like a wall. You go up against her, itís like
sheís an unmovable force. It took every ounce of energy I had, and that
Jackie, the character had, to just hold my own against her. I think
sheís one of the best actresses Iíve ever gotten a chance to work with.
I feel so lucky Iíve gotten to work with her twice now in my career.
(laughs) I hope I get to work with her again.
Belle Shouse was very good, too. You
started acting young as well, so with another younger actress, did you
give her any tips?
Well, sheís pretty savvy. She knows her
way around a set. She didnít need any tips from me. But, you have to
be sensitive to the fact that she is young. There were certain elements
that were scary to her. We were doing one stunt that really frightened
her. She was expressing her fear, and I felt they werenít listening to
her, so I pulled her aside and we talked about it. Then we made it so
she wouldnít be scared. Itís those elements. I always treat young
actors as colleagues because they are colleagues. They have a certain
level of knowledge even to get the job. They know what theyíre doing.
So I treat them with respect. At the same time, you have to understand
that theyíre young, and they can get more frightened and more terrified
over certain things, so you have to be sensitive to that. Itís a scary
movie to be in. There were moments when I was truly terrified, so I had
to make sure that she was emotionally okay. Is this too scary for you?
Do we need to rearrange this so itís not so terrifying. Sheís a tough
little girl, though. Donít get me wrong. Sheís tough. (laughs)
I donít know if I could have done what she did at that age.
Jackieís apartment has no modern
technology in it. There is a rotary phone. Jackie doesnít have a cell
phone or a computer. Is there a reason why she doesnít have modern
It was a conscious choice that Andrew
[Erin], our director, made about that. We just wanted the movie to have
a little bit of a timeless feel to it. We wanted that little bit of
isolation element added. I think it works. Because, I kept going [at
first], why doesnít she have a cell phone? Itís a bit of a style choice
that Andrew had made. I think it adds a timeless element to the film.
What was the first outreach to you about
the film? Did someone send you a script?
I was sent the script. I was out of town
at the time. I ended up doing a Skype meeting. This was my first and
only Skype meeting with a director. That was my audition. (laughs)
So I Skyped with Andrew and we talked a lot about the script. I really
wanted the movie, really bad. I loved the characters. I found out
later that originally Andrew had developed this as a TV series, so it
was a very well thought out script. It seemed everything had a purpose
and a reason. There were no rewrites on the script as we were shooting
it. We shot the script as written. You could tell a lot of work had
gone in to developing the history of the characters. And the history of
the building. Everything had been very well thought out for many
years. I loved the drama element to the horror aspect. Itís not just a
horror film. It operates on a deeper level, in that Jackie is the
heroine, but at the same time does she survive in end? I liked that
twist. I loved the whole historical element of the script with
[notorious serial killer] HH Holmes. I was a big fan of The Devil in
the White City [a book based on Holmes], so I liked that tie-in that
the movie has. [The film eventually suggests that Havenhurst was
originally owned by Holmes.]
That was such a cool old
building, it sort of reminded me of the Dakota in
Rosemaryís Baby, almost like
another character. Where was the building that Havenhurst took place
in, and how much of the filming was done on location and how much were
The interior was all a studio set.
(laughs) They built this amazing set in a studio here in LA. It
was extraordinary. The exterior, I think itís a building in New York.
But I never really went to the exterior. We used an entry from
somewhere in Hollywood. The lobby is an old, old building in downtown
LA that they use for filming all the time. I think that place is
haunted. Itís really creepy. We used that for the interior of the
lobby. So, itís a mishmash of buildings. They did a great job of tying
it together. The set designer, they did a great job of pulling it all
together and making it look like we were in a real building. The sets
were gorgeous. They were stunning and gorgeous. Every element inside
each of the different apartments were very specific to each character.
Iíd walk around set going like: oh my God, look at this! This is
amazing. They did an amazing job.
You appeared on the new TV series
Training Day. Is it
going to be a recurring role? How are you liking it?
Iím a regular on the show. Itís fun.
Working with Bill Paxton is a real treat and an honor. Iím a huge fan
of his, for a very long time. It was one of the reasons why I took the
role. Itís a smaller role for me, Iím a supporting character, but I was
really interested in working with Bill. Also, playing a madam
interested me as well because sheís a businesswoman. Sheís morally
ambiguous. I like those types of characters where youíre not sure
whether you should root for them or not. The relationship between Holly
and Frank is very complex. Itís not your typical love story. Sheís his
informant but sheís also his girlfriend. They both have a lot of
baggage in their relationship. Theyíre very damaged people so it
becomes very complex. I got to do some amazing work with Bill thatís
tough and hard and complicated, but amazing all at the same time. Heís
such a great team partner to have.
Between this film,
Dexter and many of your other
roles, you seem to spend more than your share of time with serial
killers. What do you think it is about their stories that people find
Well, they exist in real life.
(laughs) Youíre always wondering if the person next to you is a
potential serial killer. I donít know, maybe Iím just a skeptic after
all these years. What was interesting about Rita on Dexter was,
had she ever found out the truth, I do believe she never would have ever
acknowledged that it was real. I donít think she would have believed
it. When you create a life with someone and you are in love with
someone, and then you find out they are a serial killer, what does that
say about you? What did you miss? We see those stories all the time on
the news. Turns out your neighbor has three girls kidnapped in his
basement, and youíre like... but he seemed like such a great guy. I
didnít have any idea. We see that all the time play out in real life.
Thereís a whole fascination with that. What would I do if I was in that
situation and discovered that the person I was sharing my life with was
a serial killer? Thatís what I loved about the show. It really left
you questioning your own moral code, your own morality. If I found out
that I was married to Dexter and he was a serial killer killing other
serial killers, how would I feel? I donít know. Iíd probably report
him, because itís the right thing to do. Heís getting rid of the bad
guys, but killing is still killing. You feel like a hamster on a wheel
spinning around, never finding the real answer of exactly how you would
respond. (laughs again) If I do report him, am I going to end
up dead? Itís just a horrible thing. Thatís whatís great about
entertainment is that it can make you really question how you would
react in situations that hopefully you are never faced with in real
Do you stay in touch with Michael
C. Hall and your other Dexter
We stay in touch as much as we possibly
can. Everybody is spread out. A large part of the cast live in New
York. Iím on the West Coast. When I do go to New York, we try to
connect. Itís interesting, we can go for a long time of not seeing each
other, and then you see each other and itís just like picking up right
where you left off. When you work on a show for that long, and
Dexter was definitely a very close cast, we just pick up right where
we left off. You donít feel the absence so much. Theyíre family. Itís
like family. Theyíre with you, whether they are with you or not.
Theyíre still with you. The majority of the cast lives on the east
coast. I see CS Lee [Masuka], a lot because he lives out here on the
West Coast. I see James Remar [who played Dexterís father] a lot, too,
because heís here. But the rest of the cast are all east coasters.
They all came out here for the show.
Youíve done your share of scary films over
the years. Are you a horror fan, or what kind of movies do you tend to
mostly watch just as a viewer?
It depends, really. Lately Iíve been
leaning towards more comedy, because I think it depends on whatís going
on in the world. (laughs) I think we see that popularity in
different genres change depending on whatís going on in our world, and
the different things weíre faced with on a daily basis. I do like
horror films a lot. I do like being scared, through my entertainment.
I donít like being scared in real life. There is something fun about
going on that roller coaster ride and having all those emotions. I do
try to keep my normal life [with] the least amount of scary as
possible. (laughs again) I try not to surround myself in real
life with serial killers. It is fun to watch horror as escapism. I do
love to read scary books. But, like I said, it just really depends on
whatís going on in the world. Right now Iíve been watching a lot of
Yeah, I think we all need a little bit
more comedy right about now.
Yeah. A little more fluff right now
is good. (laughs)
You mentioned there were some scenes that
were tougher than others. There were a lot of physical parts to your
role. Did you have any bumps or bruises while making the film?
I donít really bang up that easy.
(laughs) Knock on wood. I donít get injured that much. I think
itís because Iíve been an athlete my whole life. Iím pretty physical.
I will say, one of scariest things I ever had to do was when I was
being chased and the floor dropped out from underneath me and I dropped.
That scene, I had a very specific mark I had to land on, so they could
pull the floor out from underneath me. I had to drop a pretty far
distance into a big giant pad. It was a trap door, basically. I was
terrified. When I was a little kid, I fell through a trap door in a
barn and got hurt pretty bad. It just brought it all back to me. Also,
just knowing I had to do this whole scene and land on this specific mark
without looking down. I couldnít look down and see if I was actually on
the mark. During the first take, my heart was pounding so loud. I was
so terrified that the sound department could hear my heartbeat
pounding. (laughs) I was literally shaking anticipating the
floor being ripped out from underneath me. I felt like I blacked out.
I was there, and then all of the sudden I was on the ground, on the
pad. I didnít remember the moment of the floor dropping out. I had to
do it a couple of times and I was terrified every single time. If I
wasnít perfectly straight, if I was slightly off the mark, I could hit
my head, or my face, and knock my teeth out. That terrified me. But I
did have an amazing stunt double who we threw around, and she was
fantastic. She made me look really good.
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